Jeanneau Cruising - 1 Viewing. JEANNEAU is a brand of the BENETEAU Group. Jeanneau used sailboats for sale by owner. Gentle breeze 7-10 knots.As Cisco says, horses for courses. The 349 is the perfect combination of performance, comfort and safety at sea. The S&S34 AoVS is in the mid 140s so I am surprised at an AoVS in the high 130s.It looked to me from the angle of heel and wide hull they have a lot of form stability. The rig has no backstay with forestay tension coming from the 30 degree swept back spreaders. In that size range of modern production boats - 10m overall - which is easily handled by one or two yet capable of taking half a dozen for a day sail, it is the stand-out pick from the other European manufacturers. One of my few complaints is that the rear winches positioned near the wheels aren't very comfortable to operate either from in front or behind the wheel. Gentle breeze 7-10 knots.As Cisco says, horses for courses. www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/dealer/used/OAG-AD-12645195/2006-HUNTER-41? Welcome and Introductions. Use of Forum. Come See the Jeanneau 490, 440, 410 and 349 at the "Get to Know Jeanneau" Open House Event Jan. 28-31, 2021 @ 2442 Westlake Ave. N. Seattle - RSVP Required 2022 Jeanneau 349 #75458 - SAVE -$17,000 - This Boat ONLY! From the very first glance, the Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 349 captivates with her pure lines, generous interior volume and inviting cockpit. Is the Vanishing Point of Stability angle able to be calculated or is a practical stability test the only way to find it ie haul the boat over by the mast?? This is where keel mass stability becomes more important than shape or form stability. I would agree if the prudent advice was to reduce sail at Force 5 but normally we wait until Force 6 (22 knots) if we are racing.I'd be happy to have you aboard, MorningBird, before you quit this backwater. 249: 2,024: J51 Experience in more than 3 Lithium Battery by jy51 Jan 12, 2021 12:46:10 GMT: Local Jeanneau … Share your cruising tips with other Jeanneau owners. Jeanneau349.com is an independent website dedicated to the 349. Performance Tips. Select to expand quoteGravy7 said...So what should the angle of vanishing stability be?If you look at the first reference that Dr Google turns up which is sailskills.co.uk/Stability/sailskills_stability_stability_explained_AVS.htmlYou will find this table: So, maybe for a 10 metre yacht, 138 degrees looks pretty good. nordkyndesign.com/inverted-stability-once-upside-down/. Contemporary elegance is complemented by total transparency and seamless space. Having said that, the Dufour 350 would be worth comparing as the two yachts are almost identical. When inverted the same wide hull makes them very stable upside down. This won't bother your mate if he is a rich dude, he will just get something else and cop the loss of money.In my opinion, you can get some awesome secondhand yachts for $200k that will give the owner a lot more of a versatile investment.Hi allThe owner is regarded as one of the best sailors in Tassie, 13 Sydney Hobart's and lots of experience racing in Australia and overseas She will be used for racing and cruising in the Huon and the Channel so she should do the job Regards Don, A bit of a simple read on stability, nordkyndesign.com/inverted-stability-once-upside-down/. The jib sheets come nicely back to the cabin top winches where they are well positioned for comfortable access.And correct again with the double ended main sheet. For those interested, I have drawing for a custom cut 75m2 asymmetrical sail made for that setup. Jeanneau . Force 4 is when we are starting to get interested isn't it? When I'm halfway upside down it will be something to contemplate! Please register to the 349 Forum and use the form on the Contact page to send your comments and suggestions. Sun Odyssey 35 . I'm sure you know the feeling.It's interesting how much AVS reduces from 139.2 to 132.5 degrees between 'minimal load' and 'laden'. Does the design suit your intended use????? Unfortunately the ocean surface is not always horizontal. (Reference at page 23 of the owners manual: jeanneau349.com/index_htm_files/Jeanneau%20SO349%20-%20Owners%20Manual.pdf)Thanks for the info. 19 Sold to Pacific Northwest Sailors! Indeed, horses for courses. Coastal cruising in Tassie is very different to cruising the backwaters of Broken Bay.The angle of vanishing stability is based on a horizontal water surface. Boats for sale through the JEANNEAU dealer network. Cutless Bearing Removal Tool Sailbleu makes a clever multitool for stern gear assemby and disassembly . Sun Odyssey 349. General Jeanneau Topics. Description. One is at full stretch to reach them and its hard to get a strong leverage on them unless you are crouching or kneeling on the seats. Hello all and Happy New Year! About the SUN ODYSSEY 349 (JEANNEAU) sailboat Fair winds, Thierry (SO 349 hull #48) By the time you have finished ticking option boxes and getting comfortable you will have spent at least another $20-25k. Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. Jeanneau Cruising. Some of the Jeanneau manuals and documentation are hard to find on the web; several manuals and other documents have been sent to me by owners and others for posting here and this page can serve as a partial repository for those items which are no longer on Jeanneau's web site but could still be of interest to owners and others. She is a comfortable cruiser, perfect for couples and young families. 654 likes. The best source of information for Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 349 sailboats owners. Here is my issue now. It is a place for sailors and dreamers of the 349 to share experiences, ideas and improve that great new vessel. Hope to get handover this weekend. Just checked the manual and see the high 130s is for an unladen boat. but you definitely have more reach with your setup. Don't forget to join in the Jeanneau349.com forum, amj - congratulations, my lift keel SO349 arrives in Australia today - hull 108. Not a lot. Just checked the manual and see the high 130s is for an unladen boat. Hi GravyThanks for that From your previous comments i assume that thew head sail sheets can be led directly to the cabin top winches which would be a good position when racing with a full crew If this is the case i assume the 2 main sheets would go to the rear winches With the main sheets it doesn't look like there is much mechanical advantage in the system so i assume you would need to use the winches in any decent breeze Regards Don. Destinations. I have owned one since new in December 2014 and can't speak too highly of it. Immaculate condition with low hours- owner moving overseas. Good value, well built and clever design. There must be 15 now in Sydney split between Pittwater and the harbour. General Jeanneau Topics. Performance Tips. And for some extra oomph, a fat top mainsail can be fitted easily without a backstay to get in the way. You may have to refresh the page on your browser but now the links to the PHRF certification works. In the Viola photo, it was blowing about 18 knots true - Force 5 - just a typical Pittwater seabreeze. My boat has the optional cabin top winches and I would recommend them as essential if he is planning to race. Force 4 is when we are starting to get interested isn't it? From the very first glance, the Sun Odyssey 349 captivates with her pure lines, generous interior volume and inviting cockpit. Hi all A mate is looking at buying a new Jenneau 349 as a coastal cruiser/club racer http://www.boatsales.com.au/content/boat-reviews/2014/cruiser--racer/jeanneau/sun-odyssey-349/jeanneau-sun-odyssey-349-47457 Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated Regards Don. And a lot of useful data on this site set up by a Canadian owner - jeanneau349.com/ This is a sister to mine and currently lives on Lake Macquarie. The 349 has been hugely popular and hull numbers are probably in the high 300s now worldwide. She is slow to get going in reverse which is probably due to the folding prop but steers very accurately and will stop on a dime as soon as you hit forward gear as the displacement is quite light at 5300 kgs. For racing I would also recommend the bowsprit option. Sun Odyssey 36i . Yes - as has been said - horses for courses or each to their own...If your mate has a fair bit of personal yachting experience, he will know what to expect of a potential purchase.If someone has got more money than a bull can sh#t, and if it turns out to not tick all the right boxes, then he will just get rid of it and buy a different yacht.I don't know which category your mate fits into, but a yacht like this will probably do exceptionally well for club racing and ok at coastal cruising as you have indicated the intended use will be. Hi Gravy She is a nice looking boat and you should be proud of her and thank you for the information so far A couple of more questions if you don't mind I like the twin rudders but what do you think of the twin wheels I guess the advantage is that you can walk from front to back without having to climb around the wheel but if it had a single wheel like the 331 it would make the rear winches more accessible when racing with a crew Do you have wind speed,direction and boat speed instruments in front of each wheel or only in front of one wheel Also when my mate reverses his current 33I into the berth (pontoons on both sides) he normally stands in front of the wheel facing backwards and the control lever to give her a hit in forward to stop her is easy to access but on the 349 it looks like you would have to stand behind the starboard wheel to be able to reach the leverDo you race her or do you mainly cruise ?Regards Don, I certainly would be most happy with a boat like that, the missus would love the swim platform and ladder, yep,, nice boat Gravy,,, Hopefully my next boat. Sub-board: Destinations. And push button actuated, she is a real luxury yacht! When loaded the AoVS is 131 to 132 degrees. There is a noticeable resistance from heeling as the aft chine digs in but then there is a sweet spot at which she flies upwind. I'm sure you know the feeling.It's interesting how much AVS reduces from 139.2 to 132.5 degrees between 'minimal load' and 'laden'. The 349 has been hugely popular and hull numbers are probably in the high 300s now worldwide. Established in 2001, the Jeanneau Owners Network has grown to become the worlds' largest single brand yacht association, with over 5,000 members from more than 60 countries. Covid 19. As to reducing sail at Force 4 which is 11-16 knots, that sounds like someone's swallowed a Eurozone OH&S risk assessment. Concept & Design by Télécam Films. jeanneau349.freeforums.net/thread/25/handicap-numbers, jeanneau349.com/index_htm_files/Makatea%202015%20PHRF%20Certificate.pdf, sailskills.co.uk/Stability/sailskills_stability_stability_explained_AVS.html, jeanneau349.com/index_htm_files/Jeanneau%20SO349%20-%20Owners%20Manual.pdf, www.boatsalestas.com.au/new-sail-boats-jeanneau/jeanneau-sun-odyssey-349/138308/. And below is a top view of Jeanneau's factory bowsprit. Select to expand quoteYara said...The question is whether this would be a good choice for coastal cruising in Tasmania. The panoramic view allows for a bright interior. In Miami, I tested Jeanneau’s new baby, the Sun Odyssey 349, and found there’s a lot to love in this relatively small package, which feels much bigger than its dimensions suggest. Back to the winches. Jeanneau Owners Forum. Hi all In my experience of crewing on a Jenneau 33I Performance for the last 3 seasons in winds up to around 50 knots we would normally carry full sails (over size main and head sail) up to around sustained 25 knots and then put a reef in until around a sustained 30 knots when the second reef would go in and the oversize head sail would come off and the original smaller furling head sail would go up and as the wind speed increased the head sail would be progressively wound off The winds down here are changeable in both speed and direction but at no time does the boat feel unsafe A couple of years ago the boat was racing from Port Huon to Cygnet on the River (I was not on it at the time) and a cold front came through (the predicted wind was 30 knots) and the wind went from about 5 knots to 75 knots plus in a matter of seconds (they said it sounded like a train was coming and then hit them) and it laid them over horizontal for a few minutes but the boat happily stayed there until the wind died off a bit and she came up again They managed to get the big head sail off and continued to race into Cygnet doing 13 knots downwind under main alone Some of the boats in the fleet had sails shredded and some of the older very experienced sailors said it was the strongest winds they had ever been in This is a photo of a 42 foot Benneatu on the river at the time after the wind had dropped off a bit A lot of people bag newer flat bottom boats but those onboard were impressed with how she handled the conditions Regards Don, Hi NowandZenStarting price is around $191,000 +++ depending on what option boxes you tick www.boatsalestas.com.au/new-sail-boats-jeanneau/jeanneau-sun-odyssey-349/138308/Regards Don. ... We got a rating for our 349, you can download it from the DOCS page on my 349 Owners Web Site. Most modern hull forms do use form stability rather than a heavy keel resulting in an AoVS around 115 to 130 degrees. Hi Don, You are absolutely correct. But down wind we suffer against anything with an overlapping jib except when the conditions are such that they start rounding up and we stay very nicely on our feet. Copyright © 1997-2021 Seabreeze.com.au - All Rights Reserved. And even if that doesn’t sound directionally correct, it is the trend now in new-boat introductions. Hi Don,Yes, you are right. There is some good reading from other owners on this forum - jeanneau349.freeforums.net/ - that will give your mate an idea of what to expect. Covid 19. The modular internal features include comfortable cabins, a large bathroom, saloon, storage and more. Select to expand quotecisco said..Is the Vanishing Point of Stability angle able to be calculated or is a practical stability test the only way to find it ie haul the boat over by the mast? Select to expand quoteMorningBird said..Looking at the amount of heel in the photo, what is the angle of vanishing stability of the Jeanneau?Spot on MB. I bought the dealer's demo boat and kept adding stuff until the budget was spent! And a shot of 108 with the keel down just before launch last week. The trade-off is the extra drag in light winds. One of my best results last season was sailing one-up without a reef in 30 knots.But as it is well equipped for cruising, we get away a bit too. Available October 2019 Designed by Marc Lombard, the Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 349 monohull is the perfect combination of performance, comfort and safety at sea. If the outhaul cleat wasn't on the boom, I would definitely lead it back to the cockpit. This is also why boats of apparently similar angles of vanishing stability can behave differently in heavy seas.IMHO sounds like the design is a good solution if the intention is only the occasional short daylight hop type coastal cruise, but maybe not an ideal boat to do a long trip across Bass Straight.What he said. Welcome and Introductions. Jeanneau + Klubben - Norway ... Sun Odyssey 349 . Hi Don,Thanks, it had to be a good boat as it is going to have to last me at least a decade.Twin wheels are great for opening up the cockpit so that its much more usable when you are by the dock or at anchor. Where are you moored?Don't get me wrong, I like modern yachts and love there practicality for local and coastal cruising.But 250nm into the Tasman in 35-45kts and 6-8 metre swell and sea isn't their comfort zone. The slight disadvantage of the position of the aft winches is well worth the trade-of IMHO.We installed Raymarine instruments despite the Jeanneau options listing B&G. Shoal draft is also available but mine is the standard keel of 2.09m draft. But that's for the shoal draft version. Does the tack have to be securely fastened? Slow going on some of these installs. Select to expand quoteNowandZen said..Yes - as has been said - horses for courses or each to their own...If your mate has a fair bit of personal yachting experience, he will know what to expect of a potential purchase.If someone has got more money than a bull can sh#t, and if it turns out to not tick all the right boxes, then he will just get rid of it and buy a different yacht.I don't know which category your mate fits into, but a yacht like this will probably do exceptionally well for club racing and ok at coastal cruising as you have indicated the intended use will be. The best point of sailing is upwind where we see off Solings and Diamonds and stay very close to the Etchells and 5.5s. If not, it would make things easier. Under sail, you always have a clear view of the headsail whether you choose to helm from the windward or leeward side. Jeanneau Owners Forum. I just fixed it. Sailboat and sailing yacht searchable database with more than 8,000 sailboats from around the world including sailboat photos and drawings. I can answer that for Sydney prices: Advertised sail-away price is $199k but that's a pretty sparse set of kit. Looks pretty well finished to me and doesn't interfere with the anchor locker. When loaded the AoVS is 131 to 132 degrees. School holidays are best when my grandchildren come aboard for days and nights aboard making the most of the backwaters of Pittwater and Broken Bay.Hope that helps. Note: Pictures are taken on a Sun Odyssey 40DS, but will be applicable to most Jeanneau sailboats.. From original post on the Jeanneau Owners Forum by Sailbleu - February 2010 . Photos and drawings the form on the boom, I have drawing for a ride... 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